Shillingstone Drive March 2011

UPDATE - 6th July 2011

Shillingstone Drive Location PDF

Reply from Councillor Ronald Whittaker

22nd June 2011

RE: Shillingstone Drive

Mr. Satchwell. naturally many parents / residents will be delighted after so many months and more so in Chesildene drive, countless arguments and petitions for this zebra crossing adjacent to Seagrim cannot believe the amount of emails / correspondence it has taken in the last two years for the authority to accept the need for the crossing, can you kindly gives us some indication of the likely works programme, meantime. many thanks,

Councillor Ron Whittaker

Reply from John Satchwell - Road Safety Manager, Planning and Transport, Bournemouth Council

22nd June 2011

RE: Shillingstone Drive

Dear Cllr Whittaker

Subject to any technical issues that may arise in detailed design, the proposal is for the crossing in Shillingstone Drive to be a zebra in the position marked A on the attached sketch plan. A position approximately marked B on the attached would considered as an alternative location if this proves necessary.

The crossing proposed in Chesildene Drive is similarly proposed as a zebra in the position of the existing refuge near to Seagrim Road.

The funding has been allocated accordingly.

Regards,

John Satchwell

E-mail from Councillor Ronald Whittaker

19th June 2011

RE: Shillingstone Drive

Mr. Satchwell.

Can i have a response to my email of 8th, regarding my endless requests now for the location as so indicated by the Petition and my emails, notice in the ECHO 16th June you mention the location "a new pedestrian crossing by Muscliff recreation ground". That is what we have been asking for, so the second question will this be a Zebra, which is the favourite i.e. costs etc. or Toucan. Also please send a plan now of the location as to the park please.

This should now avoid us having a public / residents meeting at the local school.

Finally you still have not as yet answered my question as to your mention in your email of the Crossing in Chesildene drive, which as you know goes back some two years with deputations to the council in 2010, re Seagrim road junction with Chesildene drive. Can you please confirm the type of crossing you have agreed too here.

Trust that i will receive a response this week which can then avoid me taking this matters to the panel in July.

Cllr Whittaker.

Reply from Councillor Ronald Whittaker

8th June 2011

RE: Shillingstone Drive

Mr. Satchwell,

Really don't think you are giving any new information at all, think it is not a case of me misinterpreted some of the detail, how more many time have i had to ask you that the area of concern is THAT JUNCTION OF STRATTON ROAD OPPOSITE THE PARK, think here you are referring to the western end of Stratton as it meet then with Shillingstone drive which is near opposite to Bradford road, if so that is not the end that is causing the problem.

As for the 20 mile Zone request for Epiphany, you tell me and the school / parents after some years of endless request it is programmed for NEXT YEAR, thought here with links to Schools you were to give me good news?

Mr. Satchwell, you now tell me the Vehicle Activated sign was only a included at this location as a mobile VAS sign, hence why i suppose you have taken no notice of the request for a similar sign on the approach to the bend, nearing the entrance to the community centre and park, again reason why out request ROAD SAFETY FEATURES IN THE VICINITY OF STRATTON ROAD, where number of parents children cross into the park footpath to go to Epiphany Primary.

You have made it perfectly clear that the this authority / administration is unable to accede to the requests of parents / residents, so far the petition is growing.

IN my 40 years representing this area i am appalled.

As to your further reference to Chesildene drive. 3rd paragraph of your email are you now telling me that the deputation from 2010 to Scrutiny and the endless requests / emails that you have agreed to provide that crossing as request to the Chesildene drive / Seagrim road. if you could please confirm this.

Cllr Whittaker.

E-mail from John Satchwell - Road Safety Manager, Planning and Transport, Bournemouth Council to Councillor Ron Whittaker

8th June 2011

Shillingstone Drive

Dear Cllr Whittaker

I am sorry not to have responded earlier on this matter, however there has been little to add to the previous information provided until now. Ian Kalra and I have discussed the matter at some length with Cllr Filer today.

The outline of our proposals to meet, at least some of, of your requests are as set out in my e-mail dated 20th April. It would appear that you may have misinterpreted some of that detail.

I am pleased to say the bid for "Links to Schools" funding was successful, in so far as construction of the crossing points requested in Shillingstone Drive and Chesildene Drive. This work will be done during this financial year and we will advise you in due course when the work will be undertaken. In this regard it is intended to construct a crossing over Shillingstone Drive near the western most junction with Stratton Road. I believe this to be in the area where it has been requested.

For clarity we also propose;

(a) to extend the 20 mph zone for a short distance on Shillingstone Drive near Muscliffe School during this financial year,

(b) an extension to the 20 zone around Epiphany School i.e. the other end of Shillingstone Drive, this is programmed for next year (i.e. year 2 of our 3 year programme) and will be carried out to the extent requested.

You understandably wish to see all of this work done as soon as possible, but regrettably we must proceed as our programme, indicated above. Similarly whilst you seek further, additional works throughout Shillingstone Drive I regret we are unable to accede to this request in the foreseeable future.

On the matter of the Vehicle Activated Signs "speed" sign, the location has been included on the schedule of our "mobile" VAS signs that circulate around the list of locations, and are not a permanent feature. Inevitably therefore there will be significant periods when there is no sign in place.

I understand that you are imminently to leave for a holiday and hope this information reaches you before you depart. Cllr Filer, Ian and I pass on our best wishes and hope you have a good holiday.

Regards,

John Satchwell - Road Safety Manager, Planning and Transport, Bournemouth Council

News - 24th March 2011

Reply from Councillor Anne Rey

21st March 2011

RE: Shillingstone Drive

Dear Mr Satchwell

Having returned from holiday I totally support my Ward colleague.

Best wishes Anne

Reply from Councillor Ron Whittaker

16th March 2011

RE: Shillingstone Drive

Mr. Satchwell.

Thank you for you for responding to my email and that of both our local PC and local parent Chrissie Beatty, unfortunately you have not address our concerns at all, what I find pretty frustrating with this authority is the time now local members have to spend in arguing the case for ROAD SAFETY FEATURES with officers,

Yes we have a Vehicle activated sigh in place close to Bradford road, wrong location, can you investigate a position on the approach to the entrance to the muscliff park car park adjacent to the top END of Stratton road, same time we need a second Vehicle Activated sign as one approaches the bend of the same entrance approaching the top end of Stratton road, this being the location where accidents have been recorded and where majority of children / parents cross to the park.

At present we have the white middle line markings, we have requested that these marking be changed to Red hatch markings as so successful in Muscliffe Lane,

Your Email also makes reference to locating the EXISTING 20 MPH ZONE to a position closer to the nearest STRATTON ROAD JUNCTION, sorry that is NOT ONE HAS REQUESTED, we need this 20 mile zone to be EXTENDED to the TOP SECTION of stratton ROAD with it junction with Shillingstone drive, which THEN would take into account the BEND and entrance into the park, as my previous request,

We are suppose to have a LOCALISM BILL WHICH IS SUPPOSE TO GIVE MORE SAY TO RESIDENTS AND DECISION MAKING, ADMIT TO SEEING NOT MUCH OF THAT HAPPENING IN THIS TOWN,

As you know parents are arranging for a petition on this matter all one ask is that all my points are now urgently considered,

Cllr Whittaker.

E-mail from John Satchwell, Road Safety Manager Bournemouth Council to Councillor Ron Whittaker

11th March 2011

RE: Shillingstone Drive

Dear Cllr Whittaker

Thank you for forwarding me a copies of this recent e-mail correspondence. I recall that issues in Shillingstone Drive have frequently been raised in the past, and particularly associated with access to the school.

It would be unrealistic for me to suggest a wider traffic calming project on Shillingstone Drive as a likelihood in the foreseeable future. One would not rank with sufficient priority as a road safety scheme for it to proceed in that timescale, particularly in view of the challenging financial climate.

I am aware that the Police undertake speed enforcement here from time to time. The number of drivers being caught may help inform the extent to which speed is a problem. You will recall that our speed surveys identified 85 percentile speeds of approximately 33 mph which would not normally lead to intervention.

Shillingstone Drive is however included on our cyclical schedule for Vehicle Activated Signs, and I can confirm that, coincidentally, a sign has been deployed here this week. I believe it is near to the location mentioned in this latest e-mail, which appears to be a little distance remote from the school.

As a consequence of the previous, most recent, look at the area adjacent to Muscliffe School we note that some parents appear to drive to the area, park adjacent to school in Shillingstone Drive and in Stratton Road from where they then walk. We therefore are proposing to install a zigzag on the school side protecting the area by the side gate, and potentially double yellow lines opposite. This will mean those who choose to cross here will have fewer stopping/moving -off vehicles to contend with. Our observations lead us to conclude that the greater proportion of pedestrian traffic crossing Shillingstone Drive to school does so using the refuge at the junction with Broadway Lane. A further formal crossing point nearer to Stratton Road would therefore not be justified bearing in mind only the numbers crossing.

We do however propose to include in our three year Local Transport Plan action plan, as a minor project, relocating the "entrance" feature i.e. signs and marking, of the existing 20 mph Zone to a position closer to the nearest Stratton Road junction. You may recall that I do not feel "slow" markings are particularly effective in sites like this, which are predominantly residential with regular local traffic only, however perhaps we could explore this option in conjunction with the above project.

Regards,

John Satchwell

Road Safety Manager, Bournemouth Borough Council