News - Cycle Route from the Throop Main Weir Bridge via Hurn, Bournemouth

NEW - 13th December 2012 // UPDATED 16th January 2013 // UPDATED 4th March 2013

UPDATE - 4th March 2013

E-mail Reply from Councillor Ron Whittaker
28th February 2013
RE: Bournemouth Cycling Forum meeting Tuesday 5th. March at 6pm. Agenda

David,

None of this deals with the existing problems of the present poor conditions of the two paths when one has crossed over the present Weir, naturally when we lost the lottery funds [Sustrans] for Pig-shoot which would have given us that vital link, by the bridge for cyclist / walkers and yes horses, we need to constraint one mind on how do we all improve the access arrangements into Dales Lane or Pig-Shoot.

Councillor Ron Whittaker

E-mail from David Mansfield, Secretary, Bournemouth Cycling Forum
27th February 2013
Bournemouth Cycling Forum meeting Tuesday 5th. March at 6pm. Agenda

Dear Cllr. Ron,

John Hayter and I are hoping to increase support for the Throop crossing by engaging with Bournemouth Hospital and J P Morgan cycling groups (as previously mentioned by e-mail) and Christchurch and East Dorset District Council who are improving several cycling routes including Tricketts Cross to Parley Lane. The other line of attack could be to promote a link National Cycle Network (NCN) route joining NCN 2 at Christchurch/Iford with NCN25 at Wimborne. I apologize to Kevin if this is already on the table.

I will send out minutes of the Forum as quickly as possible to keep you updated.

Kind regards,
David Mansfield,
Secretary, Bournemouth Cycling Forum

NEW - 16th January 2013

E-mail from Councillor Ron Whittaker
13th January 2013
RE: Cycle Route in Throop Area

Lucy.

Having been over the Stour and walked around Hurn area. Dales Lane / Pig-Shoot, and yes, the normal request from walkers / and a few cyclist in the area, saying "why is nothing happening to the area to improve cycling facilities," so I said instead of moaning to me try writing in, as I seem to be getting little if no support from any of the statuary authorities, reading the minutes of last December, 6.3 yes reference made to routes, such as "engage with County members to improve the surrounding routes", as I ask WHY does the minutes show why wait until the new bridge in place, we have the temporary structure so lets give it some form of active support.

Councillor Ron Whittaker

NEW - 13th December 2012

E-mail Reply from Councillor Ron Whittaker
13th December 2012
RE: Cycle Route in Throop Area

Lucy / Adam

Thank you both for the detailed email, [Lucy would request please the full minutes of the meeting].

Agree with Adam, John Williamson has been very supportive in trying to take this matter forward, Lucy note from the short notes of the meeting it refers to 6.1 "Dorset County Council bridge was subject to Lottery Funding", from this was one talking of the withdrawn Pig-Shoot Bridge in Jan 2011, also existing Weir Bridge is closed but Dorset County Council has a temporary structure in place, and well used.

As from the other comments, regarding the poor state of the path in 2009, four options were looked at, one being the red route via Dales Lane/Merritown Farm, eventually we went back to Pig-Shoot, but at all times objections from Hurn Parish, which led then to losing the connect 2 Lottery monies, we are now talking of funding and 2015. All of this just to secure a better/safer route for cyclist/walkers, be it Pig-Shoot or Dales Lane. I just hope this time ALL SIDES can work together to secure what I thought was government policies in making safer route a high priority.

Councillor Ron Whittaker

E-mail from Adam Bows - Principal Transport Planner (Strategy), Planning Division, Environment Directorate, Dorset County Council to Lucy Marstrand - Cycling Officer, Planning and Transport, Bournemouth Borough Council
11th December 2012
RE: Cycle Route in Throop Area

Thanks for your e-mail Lucy.

As discussed I will pass the request to look at the surface of the footpaths leading to the Throop Bridge on to our Rights of Way team.

Looking at the e-mail chain, John Williamson in the Rights of Way team is already aware of the issue and is investigating obtaining quotes for some improvement works between the pedestrian gate and Pig Shoot Lane. It is a civil offence for cyclists to cycle on this path, but we would support surface improvements that benefit pedestrians. Unfortunately we have no money in the LTP3 up to 2015 to support such works so unless the Rights of Way team have access to funding, there is no budget for any works.

Thanks,
Adam Bows CMILT
Principal Transport Planner (Strategy), Planning Division, Environment Directorate, Dorset County Council

E-mail to Councillor Ron Whittaker
December 2012
RE: Cycle Route in Throop Area

Dear Cllr Whittaker,

As you know the Throop bridge is being replaced by Dorset County Council with a 2m wide bridge.

It was decided at the last Cycle Forum that the Forum group would ask Dorset County Council (DCC) to improve the paths leading to the bridge for the benefit of pedestrians and cyclists.

I believe John Grantham who sits on the Christchurch Travel and Access group was going to put this in writing to DCC. The notes from the meeting relating to Throop are below.

If you would like the full minutes I can email them to you.

The paths are outside the Bournemouth boundary so it is not for Bournemouth Council to decide whether or not the paths are upgraded.

However, I have spoken to Adam Bows of Dorset County Council to communicate to him that the Cycling Forum in Bournemouth would welcome a better surface on the paths to the bridge.

Members of the forum complained that the paths are often boggy and not suitable for pedestrians.

6.0 Cycling in the Throop area and access to the airport via weir bridge.

6.1 AK updated the meeting by saying that the proposed Dorset County Council bridge was subject to Lottery Funding. At present the weir bridge is closed for safety reasons. There is some funding available out of next year's maintenance programme. With the intervention of LPT the new bridge will be 2 metres wide. Council funded links either side of the new bridge are being planned.

6.2 AP asked that pressure be put on Christchurch / East Dorset to improve the existing footpath at Pig Shoot. DM said that this could be reported on-line as he had done this to get the hedging cut back along New Road after the Stour Bridge on the West side. JG said that he would report this matter.

6.3 JH said that this footpath had been improved 5-6 years ago. One avenue of approach, to improve footpaths designated as shared cycle routes is to contact the Cyclists' Touring Club campaigns office who will use a procedure to change the footpath to a bridleway. JH also proposed that once the bridge is built we need to look at engaging with County members to improve the surrounding routes.

6.4 LO said that he had contact with County as he sat on the Dorset Health amd Wellbeing Board. JH said this was an essential link.

6.5 AK said that dialogue would happen through the integrated transport teams.

6.4 LO said that he had access to the County as he sat on the Dorset Health and Wellbeing Board. JH said this was an essential link.

6.5 AK said that dialogue would happen through the integrated transport teams.

Kind Regards,
Lucy Marstrand
Cycling Officer, Planning and Transport, Bournemouth Borough Council